This is one of the more interesting thoughts I’ve seen on the forums in awhile.
FEAR ME! I am Death Knight! Watch and tremble at my heroic-classiness as I heroically scour the heroic level 10-20 country-side which I heroically bypassed for heroic lowbie herbs and copper ore heroically!
On the one hand, it makes little sense to force players to run around gathering things from lowbie areas, on the other hand, is it fair to give a free ride? I have very little sympathy for those masochists that call themselves crafters, but what about them too?
My first thought is that assuming DK start at level 55, you should be able to create your death night with the duplicate professions as the character you completed the quest with either at level 225 or the character’s skill (whichever is lower) with no recipes learned. If you’ve earned the right to a heroic class, you’ve earned a head start on tradeskills. Isn’t that the lore anyway? That the quest line causes the character to fall, but able to resist the Lich King or Sargeras or whatever imp they decide. (As an aside I also think the race should carry over.) I can’t see it being higher than 225, because there are a few professions that specialize at that level and that would cause a whole other set of problems.
What if you create a second Death Knight? Well, I’m thinking DK are going to be a slot on your character page or maybe even a second character page exclusively for heroic classes. Probably get one slot per server so if you want a second death night it’s either delete or a different server. Second knight gets same trades as you started the first with.
Now what happens when you complete the heroic quest with your skinning/tailor mage, but want mining/BS? Tough luck. You drop your trades and skill up like any other character where you made a mistake.
If you’ve been wondering why there haven’t been many updates lately given all the new hunter news and 2.3 being awesome in general, it’s because I’ve been writing a story about the Worgen. I’m really not much of a writer, so I don’t know what I’m going to do with it.
I thought I might eventually put it on the role-play forums, so I went over there to see what’s going on, and what a typical story looks like there. I found my answer with this great post. Text follows (not my story by the way).
Here’s an old list that you might still find useful. It’s a list of hunter gear ANYONE should be able to get. If you follow this link, you’ll see that I compiled this list six months ago, but most of it still holds true.
I only get to play WoW for about an hour at a time, which isn’t enough to form up a party and run a dungeon. It got me thinking about what gear I actually could get. This is my attempt at making a list of gear that should be obtainable by any hunter through reputation rewards, questing, non-raid dungeons, BoE drops, and BoE crafted items.
As far as luck goes, mine is very spiky. I’ll get nothing for a long long time and then have a single great day. My very first UBRS run (15-man back then), I was dressed all in greens (long streak of bad luck remember). Some were level 40s even. During the course of the run, I recieved Beaststalkers bracers, pauldrons of elements (no one wanted them), AND my Beaststalkers Breastplate. I was able to roll of the BP because the group I was running with didn’t consider BoE to count towards your one rare for the run. Now for those that ran UBRS 40+ times for their chest piece, I know I’m going to horrify you. My favorite piece of gear at 60 was the pauldrons.
Yes, I wore shaman gear with no Agi on it.
The shoulders I replaced were 4-5 Agi and 4-5 Sta green BoE. There wasn’t much loss there. The elements had more Sta than my previous, plus some Int which I was low on as well. Str and Spr were mostly wasted, but it was still an upgrade.
After the run, I remember getting on the boat in menethil. Some random guy already raiding MC gave me my first “Nice coat rack.” He was not the last. I eventually started PvPing and found that an abnormally large number of shocks and lightning bolts were targeted at me. That made me love them even more. Anything that POed the horde was a bonus in my book.
Now you may ask “why didn’t you upgrade them?” Answer? I never found anything better. Seriously, I know there’s better drops, I just never saw them. Remember, how I said that I had streaky luck? Well my bad luck with shoulders went well over a year. I finally replaced them with some random quest in BC.
It’s still in my bank, but I miss my coat rack.
And now it’s come back to me: http://www.worldofraids.com/news/october/2.3/items/heroic-mail-skin.jpg
Not only that but check out this bow: WANT!
I don’t care if those are shaman mail or not, I will have them. Any 10-man guilds on Kel’Thusad looking for a hunter?
I’ve been waiting for this for quite awhile. I’ll pick through later for the nice hunter ones. For now I’m happy with the leveling changes for my alts. From wowinsider.com:
World of Warcraft Test Patch 2.3.0
The recent talk of a new legendary bow got me thinking about the previous hunter epic, and my prize virtual possession, Rhok’delar, Longbow of the Ancient Keepers. I could care less about the lame looking giantstalker set or the purpletastic dragonstalker, the whole reason I started raiding was to get an “Ancient Petrified Leaf” from the 2nd to last boss of Molten Core. Somehow, that managed to be the first epic I ever got (which is a long boring story full of me not getting epics). Since my guild had been farming Onyxia for 3 months and had yet to see the sinew drop, the hunters agreed to loot it based on the order we got our leaves. I was 5th in line, and had little hope. And then over the next 5 raids, 4 sinews dropped. I was on the 6th raid the day after Chrismas, for number 5 and my second ever epic drop.
With the raiding parts done, the rest was easy. Oh wait, no it wasn’t. The leaf started the quest, and the sinew formed the string, but to make the Ancient Rune Etched Stave required me to kill 4 elite demons solo. It was the most difficult and awesome quest in all of Warcraft. No help could be given, even from the pet. Absolute knowledge of the class was a requirement. Consumables needed to be stocked. It was like a solo raid. The most outstanding thing I’ve done in all my time in WoW.
That got me thinking how sad it was that new hunters will never gain that experience. Two drops from raids no one runs, basically guarantees it. The bow itself isn’t that special. There were better ones out almost immediately in BWL, AQ, and Naxx, and I replaced mine at 66.
Which also got me thinking… why not have hunter trainers give the leaf as a quest at level 60. The sinue could be replaced as a drop from one of the 4 demons easily, or as a new summoned boss if they wanted to put a bit of time in it.
I feel no loss at giving the quest without raiding. The raiding part was easy with the only difficulty being the randomness of the drops. The meat of the quest was in the demons, and anyone that can overcome those challenges deserves the bow.
Doing the quest at a higher level doesn’t concern me either. Most people who did this quest were in T1 or T2 gear, while I was in 3 pieces of beaststalker and greens. The higher difficulty gave me a higher reward, because it was such a huge upgrade. Doing the quest at 62 instead of 60 means they’re going to get 2 levels fewer use out of it.
The only drawback is that I foresee guilds requiring hunters to show their Rhoks before raiding as proof they know their class, but then is that really a problem?
Bring the epic to the masses.